France sees the economy double-dip but house prices rise

A feature of these times is that official statisticians are struggling to give us accurate data about the state of play in our economies. The irony is of course that it comes at a time when people are keener that ever to know what is happening. An example of that has been seen in France this morning.

In Q1 2021, gross domestic product (GDP) in volume terms* fell slightly:  -0.1% after -1.5% in Q4 2020. It stood 4.7% below its level in Q4 2019, which was the last quarter before the Covid-19 crisis. ( Insee )

This was rather different to what we had previously been told.

 In addition, the estimate for Q1 2021 was revised by -0.5 points, mainly due to the inclusion of construction data, which was significantly less dynamic than the extrapolations used in the first estimate: the evolution of GFCF in construction in Q1 2021 thus fell from +5.1% to +0.6%.

There are a couple of consequences here. Firstly those who have followed my analysis of UK construction numbers will know that we have also had issues measuring this area. Next is that in the circumstances this GDP reading looks more realistic than the previous one and it has a consequence.

PARIS, May 28 (Reuters) – France, the euro zone’s second biggest economy, fell into recession in the first quarter of 2021 with a 0.1% contraction, revised official data showed on Friday.

Personally I think that the depression issue where the economy is 4.7% smaller than a year before is much more significant than any recession debate.

Looked at in the round the main pressure this time came from trade.

Imports remained relatively dynamic (+1.1% after +2.2%), while exports fell slightly (-0.2% after +4.9%). Imports were thus 6.9% below their pre-crisis level, while exports remained further away (-9.9%). Overall, the external balance contributed negatively to GDP growth: -0.4 points, after +0.7 points.

A feature of this depression has been the various furlough and support schemes which have supported incomes.

Gross disposable household income (GDHI) decreased slightly (-0.2% after +1.9%) but remained above its pre-crisis level (+2.3% compared to Q4 2019).

As the ability to spend has frequently been restricted this has led to quite a rise in savings being recorded overall.

As a result of the decline in GDI and the slight increase in households’ consumption (see above), the households’ savings rate declined: it stood at 21.8% after 22.7% in Q1 2021, but still remained well above its 2019 level (15.0%).

Household Consumption

The pattern here had seen a decline but had become stable in the first quarter.

Households’ consumption expenditure was almost stable (+0.1% after -5.6%) and remained well below its pre-crisis level (-6.8% compared to Q4 2019)

Sadly there was another large drop in April.

Household consumption expenditure on goods fell in April (–8.3% in volume* compared to March 2021). This fall was mainly due to the manufactured goods purchases (–18.9%), and was explained by the implementation of the third lockdown from April 3rd 2021 on the whole territory.

This means that the second quarter started badly in economic terms and the consumption depression strengthened.

Spending is thus 9.5% below its average level in Q4 2019.

A feature of the lockdown era has been the effect on the clothing industry.

In April, spending on clothing and textiles was halved (–50.2%), due to shop closures throughout the country.

So we move on with a weaker first quarter and a downwards shove from household consumption in April.

Business Surveys

On Wednesday the official surveys were released and you will not be surprised to read that the retail sector liked the lockdown easing.

In retail trade (including trade and repair of vehicles), the business climate has gained 17 points, driven by the vigorous rise in the balance of opinion on the general business outlook for the sector, with in particular the reopening on May 19 of the so-called “non-essential” stores.

Ditto for the hospitality sector.

In the services sector, the climate has gained 15 points, due to the sharp increase in most of the balances relating to the near future. It also has gone back well above its average. In particular, in accommodation and food service activities, the business climate has bounced back extremely sharply, probably driven by the schedule of gradual reopening.

These have helped drive an overall improvement in sentiment.

In May 2021, the business climate has improved strongly. The indicator that synthesizes it, calculated from the responses of business leaders in the main market sectors of activity, has gained 12 points. At 108, it has returned above its long-term average (100), for the first time since February 2020, and is even higher than before the health crisis (105).

This is a long-running series so that it has credibility from that although it is also true that the previous peak at the end of 2017 when it rose to just under 112 was followed by a decline rather than a rise in the GDP growth rate.

The Markit IHS puchasing managers survey for the first three weeks of May was also upbeat.

“The French private sector moved up a gear in May
as lockdown restrictions were eased and the
economy began to reopen. There was a clear
underlying improvement in demand as new work
expanded at the fastest rate in over three years,
while output expectations were the strongest since
the composite series was first available in July 2012.”

On the other hand the new restrictions on travel from the UK will certainly not help the tourism industry.

House Prices

The Bank of France will be pleased to see a concrete response to all its monetary easing.

In Q1 2021, the rise in prices of second-hand dwellings in France (excluding Mayotte) continued: +1.4% compared to Q4 2020 (provisional seasonally adjusted results), after +2.4% in Q4 and +0.6% in Q3 2020.

The quarterly rises have led to what are fairly stable annual increases.

Over a year, the rise in prices continued as well: +5.9%, after +6.4% and +5.2%. Since the fourth quarter of 2020, this increase has been larger for houses (+6.5% over the year) than for flats (+5.1%), which had not happened since the end of 2016.

The shift from flats to houses has also been seen in the UK and is a response to the lockdown era it would seem.

If we look back there is scope here for fast promotion for a young central banker clutching their MBA or PhD. This is because house price growth in France went positive in 2015 just as the ECB fired up negative interest-rates and QE. Pointing that out will mean the croissant,espresso and baguette trolley will be a regular visitor to their desk.

ECB

It seems to be getting itself in rather a twist. Regular readers will recall it is supposed to be buying more bonds via QE under its PEPP programme, although the actual buying has fallen well short of the claims of Christine Lagarde. This is to reduce yields and restore what it considers to be favourable monetary conditions. Well apparently they are not what they used to be. Here is Isabel Schnabel yesterday.

Rising yields are a natural development at a turning point in the recovery: investors become more optimistic, inflation expectations rise and, as a result, nominal yields go up. This is precisely what we would expect and what we want to see.

Make your mind up. There was something worse there too.

I’ve always stressed that when it comes to favourable financing conditions, it’s insufficient to just look at the numbers.

There is a danger there of echoing Humpty-Dumpty.

“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”
“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”
“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that’s all.”

Comment

This has been a curious depression. Hopefully it will be a sharp relatively short-lived one but like the First World War it did not end by Christmas. There has however been quite a boom in asset prices. We have already looked at house prices but all the QE bond buying pushed bonds to record highs as well and even with the recent rises the ten-year yield is a mere 0.18%. The CAC-40 has surged to multi-year highs as well although not back to the level of September 2000.

The slow roll out of the vaccine has meant that France’s economy has stagnated again and ironically after all the debate is probably around level with the UK at the moment. Although the UK has been picking up relatively sharply. Let us hope that Bonnie Tyler was wrong about economic growth in France.

I was lost in France
In the fields the birds were singing
I was lost in France
And the day was just beginning

21 thoughts on “France sees the economy double-dip but house prices rise

  1. Hello Shaun,

    re ” a curious depression”

    by the majicks of the CB’ers we found that yet again they have “saved” the day by making sure assets are really bubble-liscous .

    Yet again another 1930’s style crash has been averted

    The fact fewer and fewer people can afford a scrap of a house , yet alone a decent one, is a price they are willing to let us pay ………

    oh lordy we’re in a cart and well on our way , aren’t we?

    Forbin

    • forgot music link

      It’s a fool’s game
      Nothing but a fools game
      Standing in the cold rain
      Feeling like a clown

    • The rise in house prices in France and just about everywhere else when we are in a recession is quite unique, with the caveat that we havent seen a time when interest rates have been so low for so long and negative in many countries.

      Moreover with interest rates set to stay low I suspect most houses will contine their rise for some time.

      There is no way we will see significant hikes in interest rates imo it would send house prices back to the ground.

      If they wanted to slow down the economy t reduce inflation taxes could be used as a tool to pay down those trillions of debt.

      In the meantime and off topic the police have found an illegal crapto currency mine in the UK this stupid currency should have been shut down right at the begining, most people are losing confidence in the authorities to govern our affairs.

      https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/cryptocurrency-mine-found-stealing-electricity-in-west-midlands/ar-AAKtOca?ocid=msedgntp

      • Kevin

        Interesting article and just copied some of the comments about “mad” people runnign the fed and to be honest they are no better everywhere else however China are taking steps to outlaw crypocurrencies.

        When all this goes wrong we will hear the same old statements “lessons to be learnt”.

        “Then the conversation shifted to cryptocurrencies and The Fed, and the Palantir co-founder left CNBC’s anchors speechless with his truth bombs…

        “We have this fetishism in this country of experts and their centralized status…

        …what’s really scary about The Fed right now is that usually when I talk to my smartest friends in New York, they say, ‘you know what, I might disagree with The Fed, but they are really smart’.

        People on both sides of the political divide that I talk to right now are saying ‘wow, there’s really idiots running The Fed’… this is really scary… and China knows this right now as well.”

        Lonsdale goes to note that China is pushing for financial institutions to stick with the Yuan, warning that:

        “The Fed has gone crazy, they’re going to destroy the dollar… and we promise not to destroy the renminbi… We’re gonna keep our yields higher, keep your money in China, it’s safer.”

        Personally, Lonsdale says he doesn’t like that idea at all but notes that:

        “a lot of smart people are betting against the dollar, betting against The Fed, and betting against the centralized system of finance in America because we have crazy people in charge”

        He goes on to warn that “it would be terrible” if The Fed tried to do its own ‘centralized’ digital currency, warning that’s:

        a “very status quo top-down thing to do, you want to be decentralized… you don’t want them in control of the system… that’s the big fight that’s going on right now.”

        He ends even more ominously – if that’s possible – warning that:

        China is “making an active play, warning that you know and I know the people at The Fed have lost their minds…

        They’re printing dollars like crazy and going along with whatever Janet Yellen needs, printing way more than they should…

        This Fed has lost its mind… and China’s taking advantage of that and they want to make a play to hurt the dollar’s reserve status.”

    • “Bubble-iscious” is a term like those coined by Harry Enfield & Paul Whitehouse whilst in their “Smashey & Nicey” DJ caricatures.
      Another, was “Pop-tastic.”

  2. “China are taking steps to outlaw crypocurrencies.”
    LoL! Uh, no!
    China is taking steps to outlaw “illegal” (unregistered) crypto-currency Exchanges and to confiscate crypto mining rigs which outright steal electricity or are using state subsidised electricity which is strictly for domestic use only. Shockingly there are just as many crooks in China as there are in the rest of the world, although possibly not as many as on Wall Street? 😉

    In Crypto terms roughly 50% of crypto mining is done in China (big place, cheap leccy!)
    Trust me, if they “shutdown Crypto” in China, we would see massive changes in mining capacity, huge swings in the level of mining difficulty; but; the Crypto world would carry on, because Blockchain was designed to both expand and contract it’s mining capacity as needed to self regulate and maintain the speed, throughput, security, stability and integrity of the Blockchain and it’s Bitcoin transactions.
    THAT is why the Financial World is terrified of Crypto.
    There is ONLY ONE WAY to stop Crypto – Just shutdown the Internet. Simples. 😉

    • You are correct in part your summary about unregulated cryptocurrecy however one doesnt need to shut down the internet you just make dealing in it illegal then the banks would have a duty to prevent money being invested in the currency and money be withrdaw and deposited in the banks.

      Simple!

      Unfortunatley the GOV are on the back foot and allowed it to spitral out of control and dont want to upset Joe Public.

      Sooner or later it will all come crashing down to earth, unfortunately its also being driven by so called chartists who call the next upside to the corrupt currency.

  3. He he! And before some innocent “believer” in “Law & Order” says “HMG can just makes Crypto illegal” my only response is “Yeah, like the War on Drugs? How’s that one doing after 100 years then?” 😉

    • The war on drugs is indeed difficult to stop due to vast rerwards at the top but the damage it causes means it must still be an illegal offence as this article outlines

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9626489/Drug-dealers-burned-home-killing-mother-son-four-partners-400-debt.html#reader-comments

      This is the second worst crime of a similar nature, in the North West there was a similar arson atack in which about 5 children died from memory and later their mother died in hospital.

      The lenghts some of these drug dealers go to is unimagiable murdering people over a few hundred pounds of debt and their entire families at that including innocent children.

      As for Sturgeon wantiing to make private drug use legal, she is off her head and the way she keeps nodding her head it looks like she is losing it.

      • Have to disagree with your last sentence Peter. I think the use of private consumption rooms may well help reduce the annual c 1,500 drug related deaths in Scotland, as we lose far too many to overdose, so supervision offers multiple opportunities to keep folk monitored and safe. It’s part of a wider funding to improve Scotland’s woeful experience of drug misuse. For me, Sturgeon has grown into a reasonably good political leader since her divergence from Salmond; very impressive in a professional managerial sense in FM Questions; but that’s a different matter to what her administration has actually delivered IMO.

      • Legalisation = quality control, & far better safety for our youngsters.
        Although I do not use any illegal substances, I have advocated the legalisation of ALL drugs for 30 years or more.

    • HMG doesn’t have to make any crypto currency illegal, just enact legislation to prohibit its conversion into Sterling, or for any British entity to indulge in converting a Bitcoin (etc) into currency (or equivalent), goods or services (ie value). Now, the crypto crew would simply move their operational focus to another country who would allow the transfer of said crypto into some form of value; I’ll grant you it’s a mercurial instrument that won’t disappear any time soon; too much crooked earnings being hidden in them that the crooks need ‘washed’ into genuine value. I’ll also grant that there’s a lot of “innocent” investors interested in creation of crypto currencies too. I’m not really invested in seeing crypto succeed/fail, and if I were an author I can see a good story emerge on how major economic powers tried to crush it (per above) but that lead to crooked new superpowers (Brazil or Iran etc) emerge as problematic disrupters to ‘the established world order’. Fascinating times.

  4. Great blog as usual, Shaun.
    Today saw the April update of the French output agricultural price indices. (L’INSÉE is appreciably more timely than DEFRA, the UK output APIs for March were only published on May 20.) We learn from it that the price of Lily of the valley («le muguet» in French) went up by 26.5% in April. Lily of the valley is given only, for the most part, as a gift on May 1. This has nothing to do with modern political associations with the day; it is a tradition that dates back to Charles IX in 1561. Therefore it only has a positive expenditure weight in April and is not part of the output agricultural price indices for the other 11 months of the calendar year. It is, in a sense, an even more seasonal product than the Christmas tree, but only in France. By contrast, gladiolus prices showed nil price growth from April 2020 to April 2021. April is the year that the gladiolus enters the French output agricultural price indices, but it is in-season much longer than the Lily of the valley, from April through November.
    In the UK output agricultural price indices, unlike their French counterparts, flowers and plants do not have monthly baskets, only fresh fruits and vegetables. It’s a pity really.

    • Hi Andrew and thank you

      Lily of the Valley sounds like something my grandmother used to use. It was a talcum powder if I recall correctly. How much of it was actually in it I have no idea.
      The overall index provides some food for thought.

      “In April 2021, agricultural producer prices went up by 3.4% year on year. Excluding fruit and vegetables, they rose by 0.4% (after –0.2%) over one month and by 4.9% year on year.”

      I am not sure why you would want an index that excludes fruit and veg. Also it has been a hard tear for cereal fans

      “Year on year, cereal prices slowed down (+19.5% after +25.0%).”

      On the other side of the coin there is this and I hope I am not the only person who had to look up what an endive is.

      ” Fresh vegetable prices fell sharply year on year (–18.8% after +0.4%), due to lower prices for endives (–47.7% after –38.7%), tomatoes (–35.7% after –7.2%) and cucumbers (–25.3% after –6.9%).”

      It is a reminder of how volatile these things are and also we got a reminder of an issue in China.

      “Pig prices sped up (+5.5% after +1.0%) in a context of reduced supply with high production costs and strong Chinese demand.”

      • I’d remind you that the World’s staples are cereals, (rice/maize/wheat etc.) barring potatoes.

        To have your main source of calories rise in price by ~ 50% in two years is disastrous for the World’s poor.

    • yah , depends on what you call fraud. From other sources I have noticed that HADCRUT5 comparisons are favouring the lower climate sensativity models .

      what does that mean in english ? that C02 rise we have does cause some warming but on the lower end of the predicted results and the catastrophic models are very unlikely .

      Note: We are in a interglacial thats about 0.6 C lower than the previous ones on today’s data and it looks like our CO2 emiissions will warm the planet by another 0.8C if we are allowed to burn all fossil fuel sources . …….. hmmm, not as bad as some make out.

      I’d say the bigger crisis is actually a lack of oil and nat-gas , especially oil ( some thing I take and interest in – we certainly had a peak in 2018 that no one talks about and we may have another by 2025 , a final one I’d posit )

      well you know what they say about predictions …….I have some more popcorn ready ………

      Forbin

      • Well, does making everyone pay more for their fuel to cross-subsidise horrendously expensive forms of it that are totally unnecessary, when 10s of thousands of people in the UK die prematurely every winter because they cannot afford to heat their homes properly, sound like fraud?
        Or premeditated murder?

      • The only one of the IPCC models that comes remotely close to actual outturn since they started this scam 30 years ago, is the Russian one. That model does not ‘force’ CO2 to increase water vapour in the atmosphere, the others do. there is absolutely no science behind this forcing, and no recording in practice of it ever happening. Just in models. Take that out, and any increase of ‘global temps’ ( meaningless in itself) is small and benign.
        But there is now a global industry that depends on ‘the science’ of climate change, disruption of economies is what they want. To make money and grab power. And the success beyond their wildest dreams of the psyops surrounding covid means they intend to press ahead.

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